diff --git a/src/charts/chart.js b/src/charts/chart.js
index a9d1eb1..c9c86e7 100644
--- a/src/charts/chart.js
+++ b/src/charts/chart.js
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ import {tvCustomThemes} from "../../theme.js";
 export let widget = null
 export let chart = null
 export let crosshairPoint = null
+export let defaultShapeHandler = null // if set, then TV events that dont have a registered shape handler get passed directly to this function
 let symbolChangedCbs = [] // callbacks for TV's chart.onSymbolChanged()
 
 
@@ -268,6 +269,7 @@ export function drawShape(shapeType, ...callbacks) {
     drawingTool = null
     previousDrawingTool = widget.selectedLineTool()
     co.drawing = true
+    co.drew = false
     widget.selectLineTool(shapeType.code)
     invokeCallbacks(callbacks, 'onDraw')
 }
@@ -462,9 +464,11 @@ function doHandleDrawingEvent(id, event) {
         const props = shape.getProperties()
         if (id in shapeCallbacks)
             invokeCallbacks(shapeCallbacks[id], 'onProps', id, shape, props)
-        else
-            // otherwise it's an event on a shape we don't "own"
+        else {
+            // otherwise it's an event on a shape we don't "own" that could be being drawn
+            co.drew = true
             console.log('warning: ignoring setProperties on TV shape', id, props)
+        }
     } else if (event === 'move') {
         if (id in shapeCallbacks) {
             invokeCallbacks(shapeCallbacks[id], 'onMove', id, shape)
diff --git a/src/components/OneTimeHint.vue b/src/components/OneTimeHint.vue
index 141dd6d..f297b1a 100644
--- a/src/components/OneTimeHint.vue
+++ b/src/components/OneTimeHint.vue
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 <template>
-  <v-tooltip v-model="show" :close-on-content-click="true"/>
+  <v-tooltip v-model="show" :close-on-content-click="true" :close-on-back="false" :close-delay="null"/>
 </template>
 
 <script setup>
@@ -8,25 +8,26 @@ import {usePrefStore} from "@/store/store.js";
 
 const prefs = usePrefStore()
 
-const modelValue = defineModel()
-const hasBeenShown = ref(false)
-
 const props = defineProps({
-  key: {type: String, required: true},
-  after: {type: String, default: null},
+  name: {type: String, required: true},
+  when: {type: Boolean, default: true}, // optional conditional for when to show
+  after: {type: String, default: null}, // set to the name of another hint that must happen before this hint, to chain hints into a tutorial.
 })
 
+const forceClose = ref(false)
+
 const show = computed({
   get() {
-    const result = !prefs.hints[props.key] && modelValue.value && (props.after === null || prefs.hints[props.after])
-        && !props.finished
+    const shownBefore = prefs.hints[props.name];
+    const whenOk = props.when;
+    const afterOk = props.after === null || prefs.hints[props.after];
+    const result = !forceClose.value && !shownBefore && whenOk && afterOk
+    // console.log(`show ${props.name}? ${result} <=`, !forceClose.value, whenOk, afterOk, prefs.hints)
     if (result)
-      hasBeenShown.value = true
-    else if (hasBeenShown.value)
-      prefs.hints[props.key] = true
+      prefs.hints[props.name] = true
     return result
   },
-  set(v) { if(!v) prefs.hints[props.key] = true}
+  set(v) { if(!v) forceClose.value=true; }
 })
 </script>
 
diff --git a/src/components/chart/Chart.vue b/src/components/chart/Chart.vue
index c9d7417..724f5f6 100644
--- a/src/components/chart/Chart.vue
+++ b/src/components/chart/Chart.vue
@@ -1,9 +1,8 @@
 <template>
-  <div ref="element" class="chart"/>
+  <div id="tv-widget" ref="element" class="chart"/>
 </template>
 
 <script setup>
-// import "/public/datafeeds/udf/dist/bundle.js"
 import {onMounted, ref} from "vue";
 import {initWidget} from "@/charts/chart.js";
 
@@ -12,18 +11,8 @@ const element = ref()
 onMounted(() => {
   const el = element.value;
   initWidget(el)
-  initShapes()
 })
 
-function initShapes() {
-  // const c = widget.chart()
-  // for( const s of ss.shapes ) {
-  //   const type = s.type.toLowerCase().replace(' ','_')
-  //   console.log('create type', type)
-  //   c.createMultipointShape(s.points, {shape:type})
-  // }
-}
-
 </script>
 
 <style scoped lang="scss">
diff --git a/src/components/chart/ChartOrder.vue b/src/components/chart/ChartOrder.vue
index 411786a..13922e3 100644
--- a/src/components/chart/ChartOrder.vue
+++ b/src/components/chart/ChartOrder.vue
@@ -11,28 +11,28 @@
           <v-tooltip text="Up to 1000 equal parts spread across time" location="top">
             <template v-slot:activator="{ props }">
               <span v-bind="props">
-                <v-btn :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-clock-outline" @click="build(order,'DCABuilder')">DCA</v-btn>
+                <v-btn id="DCA-button" :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-clock-outline" @click="build(order,'DCABuilder')">DCA</v-btn>
               </span>
             </template>
           </v-tooltip>
           <v-tooltip text="Trade a price level" location="top">
             <template v-slot:activator="{ props }">
               <span v-bind="props">
-                <v-btn :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-ray-vertex" @click="build(order,'LimitBuilder')">Limit</v-btn>
+                <v-btn id="LimitBuilder-button" :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-ray-vertex" @click="build(order,'LimitBuilder')">Limit</v-btn>
               </span>
             </template>
           </v-tooltip>
           <v-tooltip text="Trade trends and channels" location="top">
             <template v-slot:activator="{ props }">
               <span v-bind="props">
-                <v-btn :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-vector-line" @click="build(order,'DiagonalBuilder')">Diagonal</v-btn>
+                <v-btn id="Diagonal-button" :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-vector-line" @click="build(order,'DiagonalBuilder')">Diagonal</v-btn>
               </span>
             </template>
           </v-tooltip>
           <v-tooltip text="Up to 10 weighted parts spaced out in time" location="top">
             <template v-slot:activator="{ props }">
               <span v-bind="props">
-                <v-btn :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-reorder-vertical" @click="build(order,'DateBuilder')">Dates</v-btn>
+                <v-btn id="Dates-button" :class="order.buy?'green':'red'" variant="text" prepend-icon="mdi-reorder-vertical" @click="build(order,'DateBuilder')">Dates</v-btn>
               </span>
             </template>
           </v-tooltip>
@@ -44,6 +44,13 @@
             </template>
           </v-tooltip>
           <!-- mdi-ray-start-end mdi-vector-polyline -->
+
+<!--                         after="newbie"-->
+          <span>{{builders.length}}</span>
+          <one-time-hint name="choose-builder" :activator="hintData.activator"
+                         :text="hintData.text" location="top"
+                         :when="!builtAny"/>
+
         </div>
       </div>
     </div>
@@ -55,7 +62,7 @@
 import BuilderFactory from "@/components/chart/BuilderFactory.vue";
 import {builderFuncs, newBuilder, orderFuncs, useChartOrderStore} from "@/orderbuild.js";
 import {useStore} from "@/store/store.js";
-import {computed, onUnmounted, onUpdated, watchEffect} from "vue";
+import {computed, onUnmounted, onUpdated, ref, watchEffect} from "vue";
 import {toPrecision} from "@/misc.js";
 import {useTheme} from "vuetify";
 import RowBar from "@/components/chart/RowBar.vue";
@@ -63,6 +70,7 @@ import Color from "color";
 import {newOrder} from "@/blockchain/orderlib.js";
 import OrderAmount from "@/components/chart/OrderAmount.vue";
 import {track} from "@/track.js";
+import OneTimeHint from "@/components/OneTimeHint.vue";
 
 const props = defineProps(['order'])
 const s = useStore()
@@ -75,9 +83,12 @@ const tokenIn = computed(()=>props.order.buy ? co.quoteToken : co.baseToken)
 const tokenOut = computed(()=>props.order.buy ? co.baseToken : co.quoteToken)
 
 
+const builtAny = ref(false)
+
 console.log('order', props.order)
 function build(order, component, options={}) {
   track('build', {builder:component})
+  builtAny.value = true
   order.builders.push(newBuilder(component, options))
 }
 
@@ -187,6 +198,19 @@ const color = computed(()=>theme.value.colors["on-background"])
 // const lightColorStyle = computed(() => { return {'background-color': lightColor.value} })
 // const faintColorStyle = computed(() => { return {'background-color': faintColor.value} })
 
+// Tutorial Hint
+
+let tutorial = 'limit'
+
+const _hintData = {
+  'limit': {
+    activator: '#LimitBuilder-button',
+    text: '↓ Try a Limit Ladder ↓'
+  },
+}
+
+const hintData = computed(()=>_hintData[tutorial] || _hintData['limit'])
+
 </script>
 
 <style scoped lang="scss">
diff --git a/src/components/chart/DiagonalBuilder.vue b/src/components/chart/DiagonalBuilder.vue
index c89d39b..fd1417f 100644
--- a/src/components/chart/DiagonalBuilder.vue
+++ b/src/components/chart/DiagonalBuilder.vue
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@
         </tr>
       </tbody>
     </table>
+    <one-time-hint name="click-chart" activator="#tv-widget" location="center" :when="builder.lineA===null && !co.drew" text="Click the chart!"/>
   </rung-builder>
 </template>
 
@@ -102,6 +103,7 @@ import {allocationText, DLine} from "@/charts/shape.js";
 import {vectorEquals, vectorInterpolate} from "@/vector.js";
 import AbsoluteTimeEntry from "@/components/AbsoluteTimeEntry.vue";
 import {useStore} from "@/store/store.js";
+import OneTimeHint from "@/components/OneTimeHint.vue";
 
 const s = useStore()
 const co = useChartOrderStore()
diff --git a/src/components/chart/LimitBuilder.vue b/src/components/chart/LimitBuilder.vue
index 94cdbcc..fef5dce 100644
--- a/src/components/chart/LimitBuilder.vue
+++ b/src/components/chart/LimitBuilder.vue
@@ -33,10 +33,11 @@
                         style="flex: 6em"
           />
         </td>
-        <td class="weight">{{ weights.length ? allocationTexts[lowerIndex] : '' }}</td>
+        <td class="weight">{{ weights.length > 1 ? allocationTexts[lowerIndex] : '' }}</td>
       </tr>
       </tbody>
     </table>
+    <one-time-hint name="click-chart" activator="#tv-widget" location="center" :when="priceA===null" text="Click the chart!"/>
   </rung-builder>
 </template>
 
@@ -48,6 +49,7 @@ import {MAX_FRACTION, newTranche} from "@/blockchain/orderlib.js";
 import RungBuilder from "@/components/chart/RungBuilder.vue";
 import {computed, ref} from "vue";
 import {allocationText, HLine} from "@/charts/shape.js";
+import OneTimeHint from "@/components/OneTimeHint.vue";
 
 const s = useStore()
 const os = useOrderStore()
diff --git a/src/components/chart/RungBuilder.vue b/src/components/chart/RungBuilder.vue
index 946d4b2..54eb6c8 100644
--- a/src/components/chart/RungBuilder.vue
+++ b/src/components/chart/RungBuilder.vue
@@ -17,15 +17,27 @@
                     min="1" :max="MAX_RUNGS"
                     :disabled="rungsDisabled"
                     style="width: 6.6em; max-height: 2.5em; height: 2.5em"
+                    id="rungs"
       />
-      <v-switch v-model="breakout" :label="order.buy?'Breakout':'Breakdown'"
-                persistent-hint :color="switchColor" :base-color="switchColor" hide-details direction="vertical"
-                density="compact"
-      />
-      <div class="mx-auto"><span style="font-size: .7em; vertical-align: top"
-                                 :style="builder.breakout?{color:new Color(color).lighten(0.5).string()}:null">
-        {{description}}
-      </span></div>
+      <one-time-hint name="rungs" activator="#rungs" after="choose-builder"
+                     text="↓ Try increasing rungs!" location="top"
+                     :when="rungs===1&&endpoints[0]!==null"/>
+      <v-tooltip v-if="builder.breakout!==undefined"
+                 :text="order.buy?'Breakout orders buy above the breakout line':'Breakdown orders sell below the breakdown line'">
+        <template #activator="{ props }">
+          <div v-bind="props">
+            <v-switch v-model="breakout" :label="order.buy?'Breakout':'Breakdown'"
+                      persistent-hint :color="switchColor" :base-color="switchColor" hide-details direction="vertical"
+                      density="compact"/>
+            <div class="mx-auto">
+              <span style="font-size: .7em; vertical-align: top"
+                    :style="builder.breakout?{color:new Color(color).lighten(0.5).string()}:null">
+                {{ description }}
+              </span>
+            </div>
+          </div>
+        </template>
+      </v-tooltip>
     </div>
 
     <slot/>
@@ -36,8 +48,13 @@
     </div>
     <div v-if="rungs>1" class="mx-2 d-flex justify-start">
       <div class="d-flex align-center mt-2">
-        <v-slider v-if="rungs>1" :direction="orientation?'vertical':'horizontal'" min="-100" max="100" v-model="balance100"
-                  class="no-slider-bg ml-2 mr-4" hide-details/>
+        <div id="balance-slider">
+          <v-slider v-if="rungs>1" :direction="orientation?'vertical':'horizontal'" min="-100" max="100" v-model="balance100"
+                    class="no-slider-bg ml-2 mr-4" hide-details/>
+        </div>
+        <one-time-hint name="balance-slider" activator="#balance-slider" after="rungs"
+               text="↓ Slide the amount balance ↓" location="top"
+               :when="balance100===0"/>
         <v-text-field type="number" v-model="balance100" min="-100" max="100"
                       density="compact" hide-details variant="outlined" label="Balance" step="5"
                       class="balance">
@@ -70,6 +87,7 @@ import {
   vectorSub
 } from "@/vector.js";
 import {logicalXOR} from "@/common.js";
+import OneTimeHint from "@/components/OneTimeHint.vue";
 
 const co = useChartOrderStore()
 const endpoints = defineModel('modelValue')  // 2-item list of points/values
diff --git a/src/orderbuild.js b/src/orderbuild.js
index 7b060de..edec32a 100644
--- a/src/orderbuild.js
+++ b/src/orderbuild.js
@@ -68,6 +68,7 @@ export const useChartOrderStore = defineStore('chart_orders', () => {
     const meanRange = ref(1)
 
     const drawing = ref(false)
+    const drew = ref(true) // true if at least one of the points has been drawn already
 
     function newOrder() {
         const order = newDefaultOrder()
@@ -97,7 +98,7 @@ export const useChartOrderStore = defineStore('chart_orders', () => {
 
     return {
         chartReady, selectedSymbol, intervalSecs, baseToken, quoteToken, price,
-        orders, drawing, newOrder, removeOrder, resetOrders, meanRange,
+        orders, drawing, drew, newOrder, removeOrder, resetOrders, meanRange,
         showPoolSelection,
     }
 })